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InvisibleAciren- 01-24-2008

Reflection by Mulan? lol, once again, more Hinata centered... Look at me I will never pass for a perfect bride, or a perfect daughter Can it be I'm not meant to play this part Now I see that is I were truly to be myself I would break my family's heart Who is that girl I see Staring straight back at me? Why is my reflection someone I don't know Somehow I cannot find Who I am, though I've tried When will my reflection show who I am inside? When will my reflection show who I am inside? Remember I think in one of july_winter's posts: Yata no Kagami In Naruto manga chapter 297, the Hinata cover says: Quote: She sets out for the sun, its golden light her beacon. The octagonal mirror was used to lure the sun goddess, Amaterasu, out of a cave. According to myth, Amaterasu saw her reflection and was then convinced to end the darkness of the world. The Yata no Kagami is the emblem used by kodokan judo. It is believed that the mirror does not reflect physical beauty, but that of the soul. Kept in the Grand Ise Shrine in Mie, the octagonal mirror represents the virtue of wisdom. Hinata may now have the ability to judge based on her own principles. The shape of the mirror is also comparable to the symbol of the eight trigrams or bagua, as shown by the Hyuga divination field. In Chinese geomancy (feng shui, literally wind water*), the bagua balances positive qi (energy) to bring harmony in the different aspects of a person's life. With the mirror, the bagua can nullify negative qi and bring about balance. Generally, there are three types of bagua mirrors: (1) An octagonal wood or plastic with the eight trigrams surrounding a round mirror in the center; (2) An octagonal wood with an octagonal mirror and a glass covering painted on the inside with the taijitu (yin yang) symbol surrounded by the eight trigrams; (3) A combination of the door gods and the bagua mirror. This is sometime portrayed by a god holding a staff and riding a tiger. Above this figure are the eight trigrams. Sources, L to R: (1) www.rising-dragon.co.uk ; (2) and (3) www.dragon-gate.com The Hyuga divination field closely resembles the second type. When the blue** mirror coincides with the bagua (divination), Hinata may not only be the light to Sasuke's darkness, but one that relieves the burden of his soul as well.

Danko Kaji- 01-24-2008

Hmm, wow you clarified alot. ^^ Forgotten by Linkin Park From the top to the bottom Bottom to top I stop At the core I’ve forgotten In the middle of my thoughts Taken far from my safety The picture is there The memory won’t escape me But why should I care There’s a place so dark you can’t see the end Skies cock back and shock that which can’t defend The rain then sends dripping / an acidic question Forcefully, the power of suggestion Then with the eyes shut / looking thought the rust and rot And dust / a small spot of light floods the floor And pours over the rusted world of pretend The eyes ease open and its dark again In the memory you’ll find me Eyes burning up The darkness holding me tightly Until the sun rises up Moving all around / screaming of the ups and downs Pollution manifested in perpetual sound The wheels go round and the sunset creeps behind Street lamps, chain-link and concrete A little piece of paper with a picture drawn floats On down the street till the wind is gone The memory now is like the picture was then When the paper’s crumpled up it can’t be perfect again In the memory you’ll find me Eyes burning up The darkness holding me tightly Until the sun rises up Now you got me caught in the act You bring the thought back I’m telling you that I see it right through you In the memory you’ll find me Eyes burning up The darkness holding me tightly Until the sun rises up Though kind of intense, it's more on Sasuke's side with an implication or hinting of Hinata.

InvisibleAciren- 01-24-2008

There’s a place so dark you can’t see the end Skies cock back and shock that which can’t defend The rain then sends dripping / an acidic question Forcefully, the power of suggestion Then with the eyes shut / looking thought the rust and rot And dust / a small spot of light floods the floor And pours over the rusted world of pretend The eyes ease open and its dark again In the memory you’ll find me Eyes burning up The darkness holding me tightly Until the sun rises up Ooh, nice find!!! :)

Danko Kaji- 01-24-2008

Another nother song... sigh No end to them... Let Love In by Goo Goo Dolls You wait, wanting this world To let you in And you stand there A frozen light In dark and empty streets You smile hiding behind A God-given face But I know you're so much more Everything they ignore Is all that I need to believe You're the only one I ever believed in The answer that could never be found The moment you decided to let love in Now I'm banging on the door of an angel The end of fear is where we begin The moment we decided to let love in I wish Wishing for you to find your way And I'll hold on for all you need That's all we need to say I'll take my chances while You take your time with This game you play But I can't control your soul You need to let me know You leaving or you gonna stay There's nothing we can do about The things we have to do without The only way to feel again Is let love in

Danko Kaji- 01-24-2008

The words you put in bold (for the Forgotten song), what do you think it means, and why did you pull those words out in particular? Thanks, by the way. :) I feel like we're exchanging songs or something. :roll:

InvisibleAciren- 01-25-2008

A frozen light In dark and empty streets You smile hiding behind A God-given face But I know you're so much more Everything they ignore Is all that I need to believe The words I put in bold are words that I think refer to SasuHina, or Sasuke, or Hinata.

Danko Kaji- 01-25-2008

Check this out. XP Aries (Sakura), Cancer (Sasuke), Libra (Naruto), and Capricorn (Hinata), despite them being all diverse elements, are the four cardinal signs. No kidding. The Definition of Cardinal: Most important, influential, or significant: capital, chief, first, foremost, key, leading, main, major, number one, paramount, premier, primary, prime, principal, top. See important/unimportant. It's like... the four were brought together for the climatic events... on purpose. :P Way to go Kishi! 8)

Danko Kaji- 01-25-2008

I mean, I know they imply to the pairing or the characters separately, but how does it explain them? Like the Forgotten lyrics in bold.

HinaMatsuri- 01-25-2008

Check this out. XP Aries (Sakura), Cancer (Sasuke), Libra (Naruto), and Capricorn (Hinata), despite them being all diverse elements, are the four cardinal signs. No kidding. The Definition of Cardinal: Most important, influential, or significant: capital, chief, first, foremost, key, leading, main, major, number one, paramount, premier, primary, prime, principal, top. See important/unimportant. It's like... the four were brought together for the climatic events... on purpose. :P Way to go Kishi! 8) -claps hands together and squeals extra loudly- YEAH!!!!!!! -mother yells from the living room- Sorry mom!

Danko Kaji- 01-25-2008

:shock: Okay........... did you do that literally? Want to make a brief listing: Aries: Sakura Taurus: Kankurou Chouji Gemini: Kurenai Itachi Cancer: Sasuke(C-L) Kiba Neji Leo: Sasuke Tsunade Virgo: Kakashi Shikamaru Temari Libra: Naruto Ino Asuma Scorpio: Orochimaru Jiraiya Sagittarius: Rock Lee Capricorn: Hinata Gaara Gai Aquarius: Shino Pisces: Tenten Kabuto See any connections? I came up with a random one! XDD You see, Hinata likes Naruto who is a Libra, right? It so happens Asuma is Libra, too and he dated Kurenai who is a Gemini and Itachi is also a Gemini which leads him to be blood related to Sasuke, and since Hinata connects to being Kurenai's student, I guess she can make that connection to Sasuke? XP :roll: Randomness, I tell you.

HinaMatsuri- 01-25-2008

:shock: Okay........... did you do that literally? Sadly yes... I almost had to get off too, lol. (Mom's strict) You see, Hinata likes Naruto who is a Libra, right? It so happens Asuma is Libra, too and he dated Kurenai who is a Gemini and Itachi is also a Gemini which leads him to be blood related to Sasuke, and since Hinata connects to being Kurenai's student, I guess she can make that connection to Sasuke? XP :roll: Randomness, I tell you. True and perfect connection there. Also, there's more to it, (I noticed). Does anyone else find it odd that between Asuma and Kurenai, Itachi chose to fight Kurenai? Not only that but he was being easy on her (he gave her enough time to get out of the genjutsu he was using). Another note, Itachi and Kurenai kinda look alike. LOL. But on a serious note, Kurenai once said "I'm a sexy big sister type!" and if we recall right ahem, Itachi...is one sexy beast of a brother. (coughbeautifulcough) There has to be a reason for that too. Notes: Kurenai in the filler arc had a student who had unstable emotions and would really remind you of Sasuke. Her name was Yakuma (I think) and just like Sasuke, her family was extinct. And lastly, while both Shikamaru and Sasuke were in the academy, Kurenai was their teacher. Oddly, Kakashi is leading her team this time. (Find this odd? I do. Remember, Kakashi said he would observe the Hyuuga clan more after seeing Neji)

Danko Kaji- 01-25-2008

Oh, yeah... You said that once. And I've seen that fillar episode about the extinct genjutsu clan. I haven't watched the rest, but yeah... You're right on many notes. What else have you noticed?

esrarukawa- 01-25-2008

from wikipedia about Hyuuga Hinata: Before her appearance Masashi Kishimoto had intended not to make her a ninja and to give her normal clothes instead of the Hyuga clothes.<11> I didn't know that... then it's normal he is not giving her much credit and leaving her weak as to others. if she isn2t put as a ninja then she would be lost in the serie a long time ago.

InvisibleAciren- 01-25-2008

Before her appearance Masashi Kishimoto had intended not to make her a ninja and to give her normal clothes instead of the Hyuga clothes.<11> I noticed that as well on wikipedia... Hm, but he had intended, meaning he planned to, not make her a ninja, but he planned to give her regular clothes. So, if he had already planned her character, a regular person, she would've still had a role of some sort; not as a ninja, but as a regular person. I wonder what that role would've been like, had she not been a ninja... :conf1

Danko Kaji- 01-25-2008

Yeah, you're right Aciren. What would she be doing in the series anyway? What's her purpose?

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